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Leachcraft wrote:

GoZ wrote:

Liquid Sword wrote:

shazam! wrote:

Shaun wrote:

I just read about this, did anyone else hear about this?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_en_ot/us_marvel_kirby_lawsuit

Not so funny when it happens to you is it, Marvel?

Jack Kirby never helped create Spider-Man so why would he be allowed rights to a character?

Jack Kirby designed Spidey's outfit, and drew Amazing Fantasy #15, but his art wasn't published, they let Ditko do it instead using Kirby's character designs.....

I remember this debate/fight, whatever you want to call it, years and years ago....Was it Ditko or Lee that was saying that the Spider-Man Kirby designed was some weird brown and black outfit thing that Lee thought was horrible and Ditko came in and changed it? I know I remember Lee talking about that...I just can't remember where I saw it (I actually saw it, not read it). Lee/Ditko (?) was saying that the Spider Man Kirby wanted to do and came up with was completely different than the one that actually made it to print.

To be honest outside of the original artwork Kirby wouldn't really own anything unless he owned part of Marvel at the time. As an illustrator you're hired to do artwork that Marvel owns. It's like that with any company. If you do artowrk for an Adidas ad, you don't own a part of adidas. You really don't even own the ad anymore.

Leachcraft wrote:

GoZ wrote:

Liquid Sword wrote:

shazam! wrote:

Shaun wrote:

I just read about this, did anyone else hear about this?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_en_ot/us_marvel_kirby_lawsuit

Not so funny when it happens to you is it, Marvel?

Jack Kirby never helped create Spider-Man so why would he be allowed rights to a character?

Jack Kirby designed Spidey's outfit, and drew Amazing Fantasy #15, but his art wasn't published, they let Ditko do it instead using Kirby's character designs.....

I remember this debate/fight, whatever you want to call it, years and years ago....Was it Ditko or Lee that was saying that the Spider-Man Kirby designed was some weird brown and black outfit thing that Lee thought was horrible and Ditko came in and changed it? I know I remember Lee talking about that...I just can't remember where I saw it (I actually saw it, not read it). Lee/Ditko (?) was saying that the Spider Man Kirby wanted to do and came up with was completely different than the one that actually made it to print.

The problem is that all three (Lee, Ditko, and Kirby) had a hand in creating Spider-Man. The character as we know was ultimately created by Lee & Ditko and Kirby never denied it at the time and gave Ditko and Lee credit for it. Lee came to Kirby for ideas on a character and with Kirby came up with an idea that was fully developed and fleshed out later by Ditko & Lee. The original cover for Amazing Fantasy #15 had two versions- this is from my Spidey thread here:

DanElectro wrote:

When Amazing Fantasy #15 was being prepared for the printers, Marvel had two covers to decide from. Steve Ditko's cover



and the classic and familiar Jack Kirby which was eventually chosen.


I personally am a fan of just about anything Jack Kirby has ever done and really like his cover. However, I personally still prefer Ditko's Spider-Man image (not the whole cover per se) simply for its dynamic and natural pose. Kirby's is obviously cleaner and the colors are more alive. Apparently so much thought went into Spider-Man by the whole Marvel team that they wanted to make sure the character worked for readers.

So Ditko did the artwork in AF15 and did the alternate cover that was never used. Jack came up with a similar character to SM years earlier with Joe Simon that was based on another similar character.

Bottom line is that Marvel filed the Federal complaint on Friday to protect against the Kirby families allegations in motions filed in Sept in which they lay claim to partial credit the creation of Spider-Man among other characters. In summary, Marvel claims that SM was a "work for hire" that Jack did while working for Marvel, therefore, it belongs to Marvel.

Here's the complaint:
Marvel Sues Heirs of Superhero Artist Over Copyright Claims

Leachcraft wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

Personally, I'm waiting for Shittiest Day....

You haven't enjoyed Blackest Night?

Love Blackest Night...Geoff Johns made me a fan of Green Lantern.

Why the "Shittiest Day" statement then?

GoZ wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

Personally, I'm waiting for Shittiest Day....

You haven't enjoyed Blackest Night?

Love Blackest Night...Geoff Johns made me a fan of Green Lantern.

Why the "Shittiest Day" statement then?

It's called "A Joke"....look into it....

One of the biggest rules of comedy is to not tell a joke you have to explain.


And unless thats an inside joke im unaware of then it needs to be explained which doesn't make it a GOOD joke.

I was just asking why he used that term.

GoZ wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

GoZ wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

Personally, I'm waiting for Shittiest Day....

You haven't enjoyed Blackest Night?

Love Blackest Night...Geoff Johns made me a fan of Green Lantern.

Why the "Shittiest Day" statement then?

It's called "A Joke"....look into it....

One of the biggest rules of comedy is to not tell a joke you have to explain.


And unless thats an inside joke im unaware of then it needs to be explained which doesn't make it a GOOD joke.

I was just asking why he used that term.

Don't get testy with me...I got the joke, so I'm sorry if it needs to be explained...it's subtle, as in "This is the shittiest day", like a lot of people say......

No offense, but you did get testy with me first. So don't get testy with me either. I simply asked why he said something and you basically insulted my sense of humor because I didn't get a "subtle joke."


I asked TRAVIS something and you felt the need to interject and I felt insulted with your response and expressed it. Like I prefaced this post with no offense, I don't want this to turn into something other than a misunderstanding so we cool?

GoZ wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

GoZ wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

GoZ wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

Personally, I'm waiting for Shittiest Day....

You haven't enjoyed Blackest Night?

Love Blackest Night...Geoff Johns made me a fan of Green Lantern.

Why the "Shittiest Day" statement then?

It's called "A Joke"....look into it....

One of the biggest rules of comedy is to not tell a joke you have to explain.


And unless thats an inside joke im unaware of then it needs to be explained which doesn't make it a GOOD joke.

I was just asking why he used that term.

Don't get testy with me...I got the joke, so I'm sorry if it needs to be explained...it's subtle, as in "This is the shittiest day", like a lot of people say......

No offense, but you did get testy with me first. So don't get testy with me either. I simply asked why he said something and you basically insulted my sense of humor because I didn't get a "subtle joke."


I asked TRAVIS something and you felt the need to interject and I felt insulted with your response and expressed it. Like I prefaced this post with no offense, I don't want this to turn into something other than a misunderstanding so we cool?

Honestly...I'm a little pissed....I interjected with what I thought was humor, however, I can see how you could take it wrong....Having said that, I feel like, of the few that "get" me, you were one of them, however.....nevermind.....

Thats the thing. I thought we were one the same page humor wise and what not which is why I felt so insulted when you said what you said.

I asked Travis that because I know he has/had a preference towards Marvel over DC and wasn't sure if he had been enjoying blackest nighy which would explain the shittiest day joke.

GoZ wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

GoZ wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

GoZ wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

GoZ wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

Personally, I'm waiting for Shittiest Day....

You haven't enjoyed Blackest Night?

Love Blackest Night...Geoff Johns made me a fan of Green Lantern.

Why the "Shittiest Day" statement then?

It's called "A Joke"....look into it....

One of the biggest rules of comedy is to not tell a joke you have to explain.


And unless thats an inside joke im unaware of then it needs to be explained which doesn't make it a GOOD joke.

I was just asking why he used that term.

Don't get testy with me...I got the joke, so I'm sorry if it needs to be explained...it's subtle, as in "This is the shittiest day", like a lot of people say......

No offense, but you did get testy with me first. So don't get testy with me either. I simply asked why he said something and you basically insulted my sense of humor because I didn't get a "subtle joke."


I asked TRAVIS something and you felt the need to interject and I felt insulted with your response and expressed it. Like I prefaced this post with no offense, I don't want this to turn into something other than a misunderstanding so we cool?

Honestly...I'm a little pissed....I interjected with what I thought was humor, however, I can see how you could take it wrong....Having said that, I feel like, of the few that "get" me, you were one of them, however.....nevermind.....

Thats the thing. I thought we were one the same page humor wise and what not which is why I felt so insulted when you said what you said.

I asked Travis that because I know he has/had a preference towards Marvel over DC and wasn't sure if he had been enjoying blackest nighy which would explain the shittiest day joke.

Well I'm sorry if you felt insulted, it wasn't my intention.....I'm going to bed....

Good night sir.

I think we should just chalk this up as a mutual misunderstanding.

Also I apologize if I offended you.

I didnt get the shittiest day thing either.
Maybe it should have been green?

shazam! wrote:

I didnt get the shittiest day thing either.
Maybe it should have been green?

That was a bit uncomfortable. Uhm, Shittiest Day seemed like a simple joke--things don't always go over well on the Internets though. I'm sure if Travis has spoken it in conversation it would have worked well.


High-five Travis.

chuckle chuckle

Shadowrenderer wrote:

Mr.Wholesome wrote:

That was a bit uncomfortable. Uhm, Shittiest Day seemed like a simple joke--things don't always go over well on the Internets though. I'm sure if Travis has spoken it in conversation it would have worked well.


High-five Travis.

I got it.



Bite me, Shaz!

Of course you would get a lame duck joke.

Shadowrenderer wrote:

Mr.Wholesome wrote:

That was a bit uncomfortable. Uhm, Shittiest Day seemed like a simple joke--things don't always go over well on the Internets though. I'm sure if Travis has spoken it in conversation it would have worked well.


High-five Travis.

I got it.



Bite me, Shaz!

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

Mr.Wholesome wrote:

That was a bit uncomfortable. Uhm, Shittiest Day seemed like a simple joke--things don't always go over well on the Internets though. I'm sure if Travis has spoken it in conversation it would have worked well.


High-five Travis.

I got it.



Bite me, Shaz!

Of course you would get a lame duck joke.

What did Donald Duck say to the hooker?

Spoiler:

Mr.Wholesome wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

Mr.Wholesome wrote:

That was a bit uncomfortable. Uhm, Shittiest Day seemed like a simple joke--things don't always go over well on the Internets though. I'm sure if Travis has spoken it in conversation it would have worked well.


High-five Travis.

I got it.



Bite me, Shaz!

Of course you would get a lame duck joke.

What did Donald Duck say to the hooker?

Spoiler:

FTFY

i get it. thats funny gw.

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Mr.Wholesome wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

Mr.Wholesome wrote:

That was a bit uncomfortable. Uhm, Shittiest Day seemed like a simple joke--things don't always go over well on the Internets though. I'm sure if Travis has spoken it in conversation it would have worked well.


High-five Travis.

I got it.



Bite me, Shaz!

Of course you would get a lame duck joke.

What did Donald Duck say to the hooker?

Spoiler:

FTFY

Mike D bringin' the funny.

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

Personally, I'm waiting for Shittiest Day....

You haven't enjoyed Blackest Night?

Love Blackest Night...Geoff Johns made me a fan of Green Lantern.

Why the "Shittiest Day" statement then?

Well it's sort of a subtle little "joke", if you will, in regards to DC announcing a "sequel" event to Blackest Night before BN has even wrapped up. Sort of like, "What's next after Brightest Day, Shittiest Day"? Basically, a little word play, just lighthearted rhetoric not to be taken at face value...

Leachcraft wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

GreatWhiteNinja wrote:

Leachcraft wrote:

Personally, I'm waiting for Shittiest Day....

You haven't enjoyed Blackest Night?

Love Blackest Night...Geoff Johns made me a fan of Green Lantern.

Why the "Shittiest Day" statement then?

Well it's sort of a subtle little "joke", if you will, in regards to DC announcing a "sequel" event to Blackest Night before BN has even wrapped up. Sort of like, "What's next after Brightest Day, Shittiest Day"? Basically, a little word play, just lighthearted rhetoric not to be taken at face value...

yo new topic please this is wayyyy too much discussion over a joke that wasn't that great and caused a borderline squabble which is kinda girly(....light yellow...)

BRIGHTEST DAY!!!!!! come on where the predictions and the future misquotes which will somehow find themselves in the "i called it" threads?????