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I'm pretty sure he is supposed to be pretty old. But he's died at least twice, now, so maybe they'll figure that into his timeline somehow as an explanation for his relative youth.

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True Believer wrote:

I'm pretty sure he is supposed to be pretty old. But he's died at least twice, now, so maybe they'll figure that into his timeline somehow as an explanation for his relative youth.

i always pictured him at like 48, but years of fighting and hard living made him a tough bastard so he can keep punishing until hes in his 60s. i know if he was in vietnam hed be older but to me hes always been 48

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True Believer wrote:

I'm pretty sure he is supposed to be pretty old. But he's died at least twice, now, so maybe they'll figure that into his timeline somehow as an explanation for his relative youth.

i always pictured him at like 48, but years of fighting and hard living made him a tough bastard so he can keep punishing until hes in his 60s. i know if he was in vietnam hed be older but to me hes always been 48

More or less the same, I've always pictured him late 40s early 50s but hale and hearty, like Bruce Wayne in TDKR ("Returns" not the upcoming Nolan flick) or Ted Grant.

Batman - 6.5 - Didn't like the art and the fact that he drew Dick and Tim so short. I'm not liking the story so far but it might get better.

Catwoman - 8 - I really liked the art and the story was pretty good. Although I didn't like that Selina didn't think Batman knew her identity.

Red Hood And The Outlaws - 8 - Really liked the artwork and the story was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. I didn't like how they changed Starfire though.

Nightwing - 8 - really great art and as cool as Dick was as Batman it just feels good and right to see him as Nightwing again and even better than before.

DC Universe Presents - 7 - The art was pretty good and so was the story. It seems like they're turning Deadman into more of a Quantum Leap.

Green Lantern Corps - 9 - Great art and I really liked the story. Only one mention of John being a marine. Is it just me or did the killed at the beginning look like he was wearing a green version of the armor Guy was wearing right before Zero Hour. I wonder if Guys clone is still around.

Birds Of Prey - 8 - Good art and I liked the story. I just wish we would have seen all of the members of the team together before the end of the first issue.

Blue Beetle - 7 - Good art but did they really need to retell Blue Beetles origin again so soon?

Supergirl - 8 - Art was pretty good and the story was decent if predictable. Another origin it feels too soon to be retelling.

Wonder Woman - 7.5 - the art was ok and so was the story but nothing really great. Wonder Woman's fighting style seems strange.

Captain Atom - 7 - I didn't like the art all that much and I didn't like Captain Atom's new look. It seems like they're just trying to turn him into Captain Manhatten which seems weird since Manhatten was based on Captain Atom.

Legion of Superheroes - 7 - The art was ok and the story had some interesting moments especially the last page. I really like Mon-El's new costume.

those all sound awesome, sadly without the omegaeffect ill never read any of them

munson! wrote:

those all sound awesome, sadly without the omegaeffect ill never read any of them

I did not like Red Hood and The Outlaws. All the characters were butt holes, and Starfire is now apparently the resident slut of the DCU.

Brian21 wrote:

I did not like Red Hood and The Outlaws. All the characters were butt holes, and Starfire is now apparently the resident slut of the DCU.

Yeah really didn't like how Starfire was portrayed but anything is better than ginger Jason Todd and strung out Red Arrow.

Thomas wrote:

Brian21 wrote:

I did not like Red Hood and The Outlaws. All the characters were butt holes, and Starfire is now apparently the resident slut of the DCU.

Yeah really didn't like how Starfire was portrayed but anything is better than ginger Jason Todd and strung out Red Arrow.

I liked Ginger Jason Todd. It was a nice callback to pre-Crisis continuity and Bruce making him dye his hair black gave him an interesting (if whiny) reason to be bitter.

Mind you I'm pretty much referring to his appearance in Batman and Robin, I haven't read anything DC since before Flashpoint.

Thomas wrote:

Brian21 wrote:

I did not like Red Hood and The Outlaws. All the characters were butt holes, and Starfire is now apparently the resident slut of the DCU.

Yeah really didn't like how Starfire was portrayed but anything is better than ginger Jason Todd and strung out Red Arrow.

Yeah, that's true. It just doesn't seem like a book I'll be picking up again. I can live without a misc. sidekick/firestar gangbang book.

True Believer wrote:

Thomas wrote:

Brian21 wrote:

I did not like Red Hood and The Outlaws. All the characters were butt holes, and Starfire is now apparently the resident slut of the DCU.

Yeah really didn't like how Starfire was portrayed but anything is better than ginger Jason Todd and strung out Red Arrow.

I liked Ginger Jason Todd. It was a nice callback to pre-Crisis continuity and Bruce making him dye his hair black gave him an interesting (if whiny) reason to be bitter.

Mind you I'm pretty much referring to his appearance in Batman and Robin, I haven't read anything DC since before Flashpoint.

I liked him alright in Under the red hood, and Red Hood: Lost Days by Judd Winick. But I don't know if I really care for him anymore, at least not in this book anyway.

True Believer wrote:

Thomas wrote:

Brian21 wrote:

I did not like Red Hood and The Outlaws. All the characters were butt holes, and Starfire is now apparently the resident slut of the DCU.

Yeah really didn't like how Starfire was portrayed but anything is better than ginger Jason Todd and strung out Red Arrow.

I liked Ginger Jason Todd. It was a nice callback to pre-Crisis continuity and Bruce making him dye his hair black gave him an interesting (if whiny) reason to be bitter.

Mind you I'm pretty much referring to his appearance in Batman and Robin, I haven't read anything DC since before Flashpoint.

It just seemed like a different character to me. Jason has always been angry and homcidal but in Batman and Robin he actually seemed crazy on a level that rivaled the Joker.

Just read Red Hood and the Outlaws and that book was completely 100% bullshit. Scott Lobdell can eat a hundred shitdicks for making Starfire into the equivalent of a mindless, sex crazed animal who apparently doesn't remember humans at all because they're beneath her.

Seriously, fuck him.

Also, the book just wasn't good.

About to read Suicide Squad, I'll post my thoughts on it later.

CaptainJoel wrote:

Just read Red Hood and the Outlaws and that book was completely 100% bullshit. Scott Lobdell can eat a hundred shitdicks for making Starfire into the equivalent of a mindless, sex crazed animal who apparently doesn't remember humans at all because they're beneath her.

Seriously, fuck him.

Also, the book just wasn't good.

About to read Suicide Squad, I'll post my thoughts on it later.

I agree with what you said but since when did you turn into Munson?

Thomas wrote:

CaptainJoel wrote:

Just read Red Hood and the Outlaws and that book was completely 100% bullshit. Scott Lobdell can eat a hundred shitdicks for making Starfire into the equivalent of a mindless, sex crazed animal who apparently doesn't remember humans at all because they're beneath her.

Seriously, fuck him.

Also, the book just wasn't good.

About to read Suicide Squad, I'll post my thoughts on it later.

I agree with what you said but since when did you turn into Munson?

I'm not Munson, I just feel really strongly about the last fw things I've been angry about. Man, I gotta tell you, few things have disappointed me as much as how Lobdell has made Starfire. I always had an iffy relationship with the character until she ended up hanging out with Animal Man and now I just feel betrayed they've made her into such a terrible character.

CaptainJoel wrote:

Thomas wrote:

CaptainJoel wrote:

Just read Red Hood and the Outlaws and that book was completely 100% bullshit. Scott Lobdell can eat a hundred shitdicks for making Starfire into the equivalent of a mindless, sex crazed animal who apparently doesn't remember humans at all because they're beneath her.

Seriously, fuck him.

Also, the book just wasn't good.

About to read Suicide Squad, I'll post my thoughts on it later.

I agree with what you said but since when did you turn into Munson?

I'm not Munson, I just feel really strongly about the last fw things I've been angry about. Man, I gotta tell you, few things have disappointed me as much as how Lobdell has made Starfire. I always had an iffy relationship with the character until she ended up hanging out with Animal Man and now I just feel betrayed they've made her into such a terrible character.

Glad I'll never have to read that one (except that I'm sure someday I will because, secretly, i enjoy my impotent rage.) And now that I know Lobdell's writing it, it makes sense. Lobdell gives no fuck about prior characterization even of the writers who wrote the book immediately before him, (see: his Uncanny X-Men run) much less the characterization of the person who created the character and used them better than anyone else was subsequently able to (see: Marv Wolfman.) A company-wide continuity overhaul just gives him the perfect excuse to ass rape your favorite characters' personality and personal history into raw, bloody, chaffing oblivion.

True Believer wrote:

CaptainJoel wrote:

Thomas wrote:

CaptainJoel wrote:

Just read Red Hood and the Outlaws and that book was completely 100% bullshit. Scott Lobdell can eat a hundred shitdicks for making Starfire into the equivalent of a mindless, sex crazed animal who apparently doesn't remember humans at all because they're beneath her.

Seriously, fuck him.

Also, the book just wasn't good.

About to read Suicide Squad, I'll post my thoughts on it later.

I agree with what you said but since when did you turn into Munson?

I'm not Munson, I just feel really strongly about the last fw things I've been angry about. Man, I gotta tell you, few things have disappointed me as much as how Lobdell has made Starfire. I always had an iffy relationship with the character until she ended up hanging out with Animal Man and now I just feel betrayed they've made her into such a terrible character.

Glad I'll never have to read that one (except that I'm sure someday I will because, secretly, i enjoy my impotent rage.) And now that I know Lobdell's writing it, it makes sense. Lobdell gives no fuck about prior characterization even of the writers who wrote the book immediately before him, (see: his Uncanny X-Men run) much less the characterization of the person who created the character and used them better than anyone else was subsequently able to (see: Marv Wolfman.) A company-wide continuity overhaul just gives him the perfect excuse to ass rape your favorite characters' personality and personal history into raw, bloody, chaffing oblivion.

Which he clearly did with Starfire! I'm telling you, he could not have made her a worse character. I'm given over to blinding rage every time I think about who she's supposed to be now.. She's ruined. This is something that I wouldn't have thought weird if it was supposed to be an Elseworld, but we're supposed to accept this as the new Starfire? It's just heartbreaking on every single level. To think that people let him go through with this is mindblowing and makes me think that most people over at DC must not give a shit about Starfire as a character.

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I read Suicide Squad and I really loved it. I especially like Harley and am excited to see her origin.

Batman was good, pretty much more of the same. Great art, but really annoyed by the height thing (like Thomas said), and the way the Joker was drawn.

Nightwing is my second favorite only to Suicide Squad and I'm really intrigued by that badass guy with the X-23 claws. I'm also glad that Nightwing and batman are going to be having an intertwining storyline.

CaptainJoel wrote:

True Believer wrote:

CaptainJoel wrote:

Thomas wrote:

CaptainJoel wrote:

Just read Red Hood and the Outlaws and that book was completely 100% bullshit. Scott Lobdell can eat a hundred shitdicks for making Starfire into the equivalent of a mindless, sex crazed animal who apparently doesn't remember humans at all because they're beneath her.

Seriously, fuck him.

Also, the book just wasn't good.

About to read Suicide Squad, I'll post my thoughts on it later.

I agree with what you said but since when did you turn into Munson?

I'm not Munson, I just feel really strongly about the last fw things I've been angry about. Man, I gotta tell you, few things have disappointed me as much as how Lobdell has made Starfire. I always had an iffy relationship with the character until she ended up hanging out with Animal Man and now I just feel betrayed they've made her into such a terrible character.

Glad I'll never have to read that one (except that I'm sure someday I will because, secretly, i enjoy my impotent rage.) And now that I know Lobdell's writing it, it makes sense. Lobdell gives no fuck about prior characterization even of the writers who wrote the book immediately before him, (see: his Uncanny X-Men run) much less the characterization of the person who created the character and used them better than anyone else was subsequently able to (see: Marv Wolfman.) A company-wide continuity overhaul just gives him the perfect excuse to ass rape your favorite characters' personality and personal history into raw, bloody, chaffing oblivion.

Which he clearly did with Starfire! I'm telling you, he could not have made her a worse character. I'm given over to blinding rage every time I think about who she's supposed to be now.. She's ruined. This is something that I wouldn't have thought weird if it was supposed to be an Elseworld, but we're supposed to accept this as the new Starfire? It's just heartbreaking on every single level. To think that people let him go through with this is mindblowing and makes me think that most people over at DC must not give a shit about Starfire as a character.

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I read Suicide Squad and I really loved it. I especially like Harley and am excited to see her origin.

Batman was good, pretty much more of the same. Great art, but really annoyed by the height thing (like Thomas said), and the way the Joker was drawn.

Nightwing is my second favorite only to Suicide Squad and I'm really intrigued by that badass guy with the X-23 claws. I'm also glad that Nightwing and batman are going to be having an intertwining storyline.

Yeah, the book was crap. I hope Lobdell does a better job with Teen Titans. But he'll probably have Tim Drake banging all the female characters by issue 2.

Superman - 7.5 - the art was pretty good and the story wasn't bad although the action was pretty boring. A one-shot fire creature is how they're going reintroduce one of their flagship books, really? The destruction of the old Daily Planet felt like it symbolized the destruction of the old DC universe. The one thing I hated with a passion was that scene that we saw a preview of a few months ago with Clark coming to Lois' door and dismissing Clark for that major tool.

Green Lanterns: New Guardians - 8 - the art was decent and the story was good but the one thing I didn't like was the revisionist history with Gantlet being glad he picked Kyle.

Teen Titans - 7 - didn't like the art and not enough happened, I kept looking and checking to make sure there wasn't more to the story.

Savage Hawkman - 7 - The art and story were ok but I was kind of hoping that they would be able to recapture how awesome they made Hawkman in his most recent series.

Fury Of Firestorm - 7.5 - the art is good and it started out pretty good but then it seemed to go off the rails in the last few pages.

Aquaman - 9.5 - I was surprised that this was one of the best books from the reboot, I expected it to be at best somewhere in the middle but Johns and Reis do it again and make me give a fuck about a character that I only liked a little.

Flash - 8.5 - Manipul is still one of my favorite artists and makes the Flash feel fresh. I'm not as pissed off as I though I'd be with Barry and Iris not being married anymore, it's probably because I really haven't seen much of Barry except in the last year and in a few other things. I never got all that emotionally invested in their relationship. I'm still hoping they get together eventually but I can wait and see.

Batman: The Dark Knight - 8.5 - Great art and the story was the best of the Bat books next to Nightwing.

All-Star Western - 7.5 - I've never been a huge fan of Jonah but this story was pretty interesting.

Justice League Dark - 9 - Great art and a great story it was as good as I ws hoping it would be and I can't wait for more.

I, Vampire - 8.5 - This was an out of the blue surprise. I liked this book a lot more than I thought I would.

Voodoo - 7.5 - This started out good but then towards the end the character felt like a complete stranger.

Blackhawks - 6 - Just a generic G.I. Joe wannabe, I don't think I'll be getting the next issue. I wish they would have done a Team 7 or Wetworks book instead of this.