Kryptonite

Shaun wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

that would probably make Cage the greatest character ever!!!

we have to get this into continuity.


he's already the posterboy for Blaxploitation. might as well make his powers money based too.

PeteWisdom wrote:

Shaun wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

that would probably make Cage the greatest character ever!!!

we have to get this into continuity.


he's already the posterboy for Blaxploitation. might as well make his powers money based too.

Something about all of this really seems wrong for me.

PeteWisdom wrote:

Shaun wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

that would probably make Cage the greatest character ever!!!

we have to get this into continuity.


he's already the posterboy for Blaxploitation. might as well make his powers money based too.

hell yea

CaptainJoel wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Shaun wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

that would probably make Cage the greatest character ever!!!

we have to get this into continuity.


he's already the posterboy for Blaxploitation. might as well make his powers money based too.

Something about all of this really seems wrong for me.

How so?

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

All this strength creepage is getting ridiculous, How did the ghost rider go from 10 tons to 25 tons? Is there a Bally's in hell and he's working out more. Cap is 5 tons now? I rememer a scene from the Avengers when Cap was working out and straining as he's completeing a set of barbell curl at 500 lbs. Beast comes by picks it up with one hand and puts it away. Strength-wise cap should be above Daredevil, but below cage and spiderman.

Jim! wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

All this strength creepage is getting ridiculous, How did the ghost rider go from 10 tons to 25 tons? Is there a Bally's in hell and he's working out more. Cap is 5 tons now? I rememer a scene from the Avengers when Cap was working out and straining as he's completeing a set of barbell curl at 500 lbs. Beast comes by picks it up with one hand and puts it away. Strength-wise cap should be above Daredevil, but below cage and spiderman.

Yes, well everyone is stronger nowadays..

who do I blame? the 90's and Dragon Ball Z.


anyways Loeb forgot the memo, he seems to think Cap can pretty much One Shot the Hulk. Granted Spidey helped, so a combined punch from Spidey and Cap can One Shot the Hulk.



Damn... too bad Cap wasn't around to save everyone from WWH.

Jim! wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

All this strength creepage is getting ridiculous, How did the ghost rider go from 10 tons to 25 tons? Is there a Bally's in hell and he's working out more. Cap is 5 tons now? I rememer a scene from the Avengers when Cap was working out and straining as he's completeing a set of barbell curl at 500 lbs. Beast comes by picks it up with one hand and puts it away. Strength-wise cap should be above Daredevil, but below cage and spiderman.

Well the 10 ton Ghost Rider stat was for Dan Ketch Ghost Rider, I believe. Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider is getting stronger in my opinion becaue the Ghost Rider aspect is awakening more than it ever has before and can more consciously access the resivour of power that he has.

Shadowrenderer wrote:

It is an easy out. Something they OVER use on Smallville.

So I'm happy it's rare again. Maybe it'll be more like the early John Byrne days. That'd be good.

& do we really need so many dif. kinds of K?

Yes.

There needs to be one that makes Superman gay.

Jim! wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

All this strength creepage is getting ridiculous, How did the ghost rider go from 10 tons to 25 tons? Is there a Bally's in hell and he's working out more. Cap is 5 tons now? I rememer a scene from the Avengers when Cap was working out and straining as he's completeing a set of barbell curl at 500 lbs. Beast comes by picks it up with one hand and puts it away. Strength-wise cap should be above Daredevil, but below cage and spiderman.

Doesn't that sorta wreck that story were Cap had super strength? Granted that was a hell of a long time ago, but if he's so strong all the time??

I have noticed Marvel characters are getting stronger lately. But DC has also doing it for years. Well, except for Superman after CoIE. But after IC he's back up there again, isn't he?

Shadowrenderer wrote:

CaptainJoel wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

It is an easy out. Something they OVER use on Smallville.

So I'm happy it's rare again. Maybe it'll be more like the early John Byrne days. That'd be good.

& do we really need so many dif. kinds of K?

Yes.

There needs to be one that makes Superman gay.

don't bring that in again, please.

Yes, please don't - but for the record it's the purple kryptonite!

Shadowrenderer wrote:

Jim! wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

All this strength creepage is getting ridiculous, How did the ghost rider go from 10 tons to 25 tons? Is there a Bally's in hell and he's working out more. Cap is 5 tons now? I rememer a scene from the Avengers when Cap was working out and straining as he's completeing a set of barbell curl at 500 lbs. Beast comes by picks it up with one hand and puts it away. Strength-wise cap should be above Daredevil, but below cage and spiderman.

Doesn't that sorta wreck that story were Cap had super strength? Granted that was a hell of a long time ago, but if he's so strong all the time??

I have noticed Marvel characters are getting stronger lately. But DC has also doing it for years. Well, except for Superman after CoIE. But after IC he's back up there again, isn't he?

The nice thing about COIE was that the reboot afterward dialed back the super powers, but every ten years the writes get sloppy or nostalgic and bring back stupid things like a cube bizarro world and rainbow kryptonite and then everyone gets a power boost. On the marvel side, Iron man shits out miniture atomic bombs, has analyzed the moves of every hero. , but as strong as he is Thor has to be that much stronger and then so does the hulk and suddenly luke cage is invulnerable istead of just resilient. Don't get me started on magneto or the scarlet witch!

Jim! wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

CaptainJoel wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

It is an easy out. Something they OVER use on Smallville.

So I'm happy it's rare again. Maybe it'll be more like the early John Byrne days. That'd be good.

& do we really need so many dif. kinds of K?

Yes.

There needs to be one that makes Superman gay.

don't bring that in again, please.

Yes, please don't - but for the record it's the purple kryptonite!

I thought that was Red Krytonite?

Like... he was just agro-closet gay. Hiding it yah know?

Hedinnweis wrote:

Jim! wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

CaptainJoel wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

It is an easy out. Something they OVER use on Smallville.

So I'm happy it's rare again. Maybe it'll be more like the early John Byrne days. That'd be good.

& do we really need so many dif. kinds of K?

Yes.

There needs to be one that makes Superman gay.

don't bring that in again, please.

Yes, please don't - but for the record it's the purple kryptonite!

I thought that was Red Krytonite?

Like... he was just agro-closet gay. Hiding it yah know?

Its actually the pink kryptonite, red had a different effect on him each time pre COIE, Post COIE red Kryptonite makes his powers uncontrollable.

Jim! wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

Jim! wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

All this strength creepage is getting ridiculous, How did the ghost rider go from 10 tons to 25 tons? Is there a Bally's in hell and he's working out more. Cap is 5 tons now? I rememer a scene from the Avengers when Cap was working out and straining as he's completeing a set of barbell curl at 500 lbs. Beast comes by picks it up with one hand and puts it away. Strength-wise cap should be above Daredevil, but below cage and spiderman.

Doesn't that sorta wreck that story were Cap had super strength? Granted that was a hell of a long time ago, but if he's so strong all the time??

I have noticed Marvel characters are getting stronger lately. But DC has also doing it for years. Well, except for Superman after CoIE. But after IC he's back up there again, isn't he?

The nice thing about COIE was that the reboot afterward dialed back the super powers, but every ten years the writes get sloppy or nostalgic and bring back stupid things like a cube bizarro world and rainbow kryptonite and then everyone gets a power boost. On the marvel side, Iron man shits out miniture atomic bombs, has analyzed the moves of every hero. , but as strong as he is Thor has to be that much stronger and then so does the hulk and suddenly luke cage is invulnerable istead of just resilient. Don't get me started on magneto or the scarlet witch!

Well wasn't the cube Bizarro world only brought back because of the Donner crap?

Yeah the Iron Man power thing has been crazy, but I mean he used to build "insert someone more powerful" Buster armors there for awhile. At least the Extremis was an interesting concept, the problem was that Ellis left it too open-ended and so there basically isn't anything Iron Man can't do. Not that I"m complaining too much, since I'm like the Lone Iron Man Fan here.


Magneto used to be quite the badass, now he's umm... well depowered and nothing. Then there's the abortion of a retcon with the Xorneto thing, where it wasn't him in New X-Men, or whatever.

Scarlet Witch... well blame Bendis and his ruling fist in the Marvel U.



and for the record, I seriously blame Anime for the boost in characters abilities. The comic book feats have to compare with Kamehameha's and Bankai's and shiz. So thats one reason why I'm going to let it slide that Jeph Loeb has Red Hulk throw earth shattering punches that register 10 on the rictor scale.

PeteWisdom wrote:

Jim! wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

Jim! wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

All this strength creepage is getting ridiculous, How did the ghost rider go from 10 tons to 25 tons? Is there a Bally's in hell and he's working out more. Cap is 5 tons now? I rememer a scene from the Avengers when Cap was working out and straining as he's completeing a set of barbell curl at 500 lbs. Beast comes by picks it up with one hand and puts it away. Strength-wise cap should be above Daredevil, but below cage and spiderman.

Doesn't that sorta wreck that story were Cap had super strength? Granted that was a hell of a long time ago, but if he's so strong all the time??

I have noticed Marvel characters are getting stronger lately. But DC has also doing it for years. Well, except for Superman after CoIE. But after IC he's back up there again, isn't he?

The nice thing about COIE was that the reboot afterward dialed back the super powers, but every ten years the writes get sloppy or nostalgic and bring back stupid things like a cube bizarro world and rainbow kryptonite and then everyone gets a power boost. On the marvel side, Iron man shits out miniture atomic bombs, has analyzed the moves of every hero. , but as strong as he is Thor has to be that much stronger and then so does the hulk and suddenly luke cage is invulnerable istead of just resilient. Don't get me started on magneto or the scarlet witch!

Well wasn't the cube Bizarro world only brought back because of the Donner crap?

Yeah the Iron Man power thing has been crazy, but I mean he used to build "insert someone more powerful" Buster armors there for awhile. At least the Extremis was an interesting concept, the problem was that Ellis left it too open-ended and so there basically isn't anything Iron Man can't do. Not that I"m complaining too much, since I'm like the Lone Iron Man Fan here.


Magneto used to be quite the badass, now he's umm... well depowered and nothing. Then there's the abortion of a retcon with the Xorneto thing, where it wasn't him in New X-Men, or whatever.

Scarlet Witch... well blame Bendis and his ruling fist in the Marvel U.



and for the record, I seriously blame Anime for the boost in characters abilities. The comic book feats have to compare with Kamehameha's and Bankai's and shiz. So thats one reason why I'm going to let it slide that Jeph Loeb has Red Hulk throw earth shattering punches that register 10 on the rictor scale.

I have a theory. Marvel saw how cool it was when DC started getting different colors for Laterns so they decided to do the same with the Hulk. Up next Yellow, Orange, Purple, Blue, Indigo, and Black. Black may just be when Bendis drops a gamma bomb on Luke Cage and he finally gets to the power levels that he always wanted him to have.

myleftsh0e wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Well I mean....


he is a demon...



shouldn't he have enhanced strength and durability?

10 tons in on the low side.


Anyways I get what you mean though. Wolverine is up to 10 tons right? Cap is 15 or something?


They're only supposed to be "peak" condition or something ya? Oh well.


At least Luke Cage is... wait......



Damn YOU BENDIS!

GR could always lift 10 tons. Wolverine can lift like 2 tons since his adamentium supprts his bone structure.

No way Cap can lift 15 tons

i have old marvel cards and Cage could only lift 3 tons. Now he can lift 80 due to second dose.

Captain Brit could only lift 2 tons also now he's buff too.




I guess it make sense. When someone's main power is super strength it should be more than some guys whose main power isn't (spidey)

Yellow doesn't apply here!!!!!!

PeteWisdom wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Jim! wrote:

Shadowrenderer wrote:

Jim! wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Thomas wrote:

PeteWisdom wrote:

Actually...


Cage's strength should only increase when he's owed large sums of money.


the smaller the stash, the weaker he is...


course you know... this, in a way could be defined as "Omega Level" and well... that would be an atrocity.

They should have Luke say, "The richer Cage gets, the stronger Cage gets!"

"You don't want to owe me money honey.... you won't like it when you owe me money."


especially when there's interest involved.

All this strength creepage is getting ridiculous, How did the ghost rider go from 10 tons to 25 tons? Is there a Bally's in hell and he's working out more. Cap is 5 tons now? I rememer a scene from the Avengers when Cap was working out and straining as he's completeing a set of barbell curl at 500 lbs. Beast comes by picks it up with one hand and puts it away. Strength-wise cap should be above Daredevil, but below cage and spiderman.

Doesn't that sorta wreck that story were Cap had super strength? Granted that was a hell of a long time ago, but if he's so strong all the time??

I have noticed Marvel characters are getting stronger lately. But DC has also doing it for years. Well, except for Superman after CoIE. But after IC he's back up there again, isn't he?

The nice thing about COIE was that the reboot afterward dialed back the super powers, but every ten years the writes get sloppy or nostalgic and bring back stupid things like a cube bizarro world and rainbow kryptonite and then everyone gets a power boost. On the marvel side, Iron man shits out miniture atomic bombs, has analyzed the moves of every hero. , but as strong as he is Thor has to be that much stronger and then so does the hulk and suddenly luke cage is invulnerable istead of just resilient. Don't get me started on magneto or the scarlet witch!

Well wasn't the cube Bizarro world only brought back because of the Donner crap?

Yeah the Iron Man power thing has been crazy, but I mean he used to build "insert someone more powerful" Buster armors there for awhile. At least the Extremis was an interesting concept, the problem was that Ellis left it too open-ended and so there basically isn't anything Iron Man can't do. Not that I"m complaining too much, since I'm like the Lone Iron Man Fan here.


Magneto used to be quite the badass, now he's umm... well depowered and nothing. Then there's the abortion of a retcon with the Xorneto thing, where it wasn't him in New X-Men, or whatever.

Scarlet Witch... well blame Bendis and his ruling fist in the Marvel U.



and for the record, I seriously blame Anime for the boost in characters abilities. The comic book feats have to compare with Kamehameha's and Bankai's and shiz. So thats one reason why I'm going to let it slide that Jeph Loeb has Red Hulk throw earth shattering punches that register 10 on the rictor scale.

I have a theory. Marvel saw how cool it was when DC started getting different colors for Laterns so they decided to do the same with the Hulk. Up next Yellow, Orange, Purple, Blue, Indigo, and Black. Black may just be when Bendis drops a gamma bomb on Luke Cage and he finally gets to the power levels that he always wanted him to have.

& that's something we all want to see.

that and Gamma Vision!!!

dont worry Doc Samson is gonna get that power here soon enough

Captain Britain could only lift 3 tons back when he wore this costume.


He got a power boost so long ago that it was before it became common place. As soon as he started wearing this costume he could lift about 50 tons.