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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 20, 2008 6:07 pm

PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
bayani wrote:
Thomas wrote:
What if all of the Marvel villains were in the DC Universe and the DC villains were all in the Marvel universe?
Marvel would be screwed.

Doom would kill Batman (that's right I said it) and control Superman.

HELL NO!!!

Doom is the best thing to ever come from Marvel and I love him... But he's not gonna control Supes. Luthor is every bit as smart as Doom and Supes has done just fine with him.

And give Batman a little more credit.

I would say Doom might even have a better chance than Luthor. Yes I know Luthor is super smart, but so is Doom.


Now given how Doom is written, He could kick Supermans ass, at least temporarily. Course Dooms worst enemy is his own ego, so yeah. Question though, Yes Doom is next in line for Sorceror Supreme, but isn't Stephen Strange no longer the Sorceror Supreme? So who's taken his place? Doom? Haven't heard anything to say otherwise?

See I just don't believe that. Luthor and Doom have completely different motivations. But I think they are equal... None more dangerous then the other. Luthor likes to sit back and use ppl and scheme... but he is more then capable to taking care ofbusiness himself.
Doom is moreabout accumilating Personal power... mean finding ways to make himself more powerful.

They are both equally dangerous I think


Yeah but Doom just seems more successful. Stole the Beyonders powers thank you. Luthor has the Rock of Ages and what does he do with it? Practically nothing.

Luthor was President though.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 20, 2008 6:08 pm

Thomas wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
bayani wrote:
Thomas wrote:
What if all of the Marvel villains were in the DC Universe and the DC villains were all in the Marvel universe?
Marvel would be screwed.

Doom would kill Batman (that's right I said it) and control Superman.

HELL NO!!!

Doom is the best thing to ever come from Marvel and I love him... But he's not gonna control Supes. Luthor is every bit as smart as Doom and Supes has done just fine with him.

And give Batman a little more credit.

I would say Doom might even have a better chance than Luthor. Yes I know Luthor is super smart, but so is Doom.


Now given how Doom is written, He could kick Supermans ass, at least temporarily. Course Dooms worst enemy is his own ego, so yeah. Question though, Yes Doom is next in line for Sorceror Supreme, but isn't Stephen Strange no longer the Sorceror Supreme? So who's taken his place? Doom? Haven't heard anything to say otherwise?

See I just don't believe that. Luthor and Doom have completely different motivations. But I think they are equal... None more dangerous then the other. Luthor likes to sit back and use ppl and scheme... but he is more then capable to taking care ofbusiness himself.
Doom is moreabout accumilating Personal power... mean finding ways to make himself more powerful.

They are both equally dangerous I think


Yeah but Doom just seems more successful. Stole the Beyonders powers thank you. Luthor has the Rock of Ages and what does he do with it? Practically nothing.

Luthor was President though.
and doom has his own country.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 20, 2008 6:09 pm

PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
bayani wrote:
Thomas wrote:
What if all of the Marvel villains were in the DC Universe and the DC villains were all in the Marvel universe?
Marvel would be screwed.

Doom would kill Batman (that's right I said it) and control Superman.

HELL NO!!!

Doom is the best thing to ever come from Marvel and I love him... But he's not gonna control Supes. Luthor is every bit as smart as Doom and Supes has done just fine with him.

And give Batman a little more credit.

I would say Doom might even have a better chance than Luthor. Yes I know Luthor is super smart, but so is Doom.


Now given how Doom is written, He could kick Supermans ass, at least temporarily. Course Dooms worst enemy is his own ego, so yeah. Question though, Yes Doom is next in line for Sorceror Supreme, but isn't Stephen Strange no longer the Sorceror Supreme? So who's taken his place? Doom? Haven't heard anything to say otherwise?

See I just don't believe that. Luthor and Doom have completely different motivations. But I think they are equal... None more dangerous then the other. Luthor likes to sit back and use ppl and scheme... but he is more then capable to taking care ofbusiness himself.
Doom is moreabout accumilating Personal power... mean finding ways to make himself more powerful.

They are both equally dangerous I think


Yeah but Doom just seems more successful. Stole the Beyonders powers thank you. Luthor has the Rock of Ages and what does he do with it? Practically nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 20, 2008 6:13 pm

bayani wrote:
Thomas wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
bayani wrote:
Thomas wrote:
What if all of the Marvel villains were in the DC Universe and the DC villains were all in the Marvel universe?
Marvel would be screwed.

Doom would kill Batman (that's right I said it) and control Superman.

HELL NO!!!

Doom is the best thing to ever come from Marvel and I love him... But he's not gonna control Supes. Luthor is every bit as smart as Doom and Supes has done just fine with him.

And give Batman a little more credit.

I would say Doom might even have a better chance than Luthor. Yes I know Luthor is super smart, but so is Doom.


Now given how Doom is written, He could kick Supermans ass, at least temporarily. Course Dooms worst enemy is his own ego, so yeah. Question though, Yes Doom is next in line for Sorceror Supreme, but isn't Stephen Strange no longer the Sorceror Supreme? So who's taken his place? Doom? Haven't heard anything to say otherwise?

See I just don't believe that. Luthor and Doom have completely different motivations. But I think they are equal... None more dangerous then the other. Luthor likes to sit back and use ppl and scheme... but he is more then capable to taking care ofbusiness himself.
Doom is moreabout accumilating Personal power... mean finding ways to make himself more powerful.

They are both equally dangerous I think


Yeah but Doom just seems more successful. Stole the Beyonders powers thank you. Luthor has the Rock of Ages and what does he do with it? Practically nothing.

Luthor was President though.
and doom has his own country.

Yeah a country the size of Rhode Island big deal.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 20, 2008 6:45 pm

Thomas wrote:
bayani wrote:
Thomas wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
bayani wrote:
Thomas wrote:
What if all of the Marvel villains were in the DC Universe and the DC villains were all in the Marvel universe?
Marvel would be screwed.

Doom would kill Batman (that's right I said it) and control Superman.

HELL NO!!!

Doom is the best thing to ever come from Marvel and I love him... But he's not gonna control Supes. Luthor is every bit as smart as Doom and Supes has done just fine with him.

And give Batman a little more credit.

I would say Doom might even have a better chance than Luthor. Yes I know Luthor is super smart, but so is Doom.


Now given how Doom is written, He could kick Supermans ass, at least temporarily. Course Dooms worst enemy is his own ego, so yeah. Question though, Yes Doom is next in line for Sorceror Supreme, but isn't Stephen Strange no longer the Sorceror Supreme? So who's taken his place? Doom? Haven't heard anything to say otherwise?

See I just don't believe that. Luthor and Doom have completely different motivations. But I think they are equal... None more dangerous then the other. Luthor likes to sit back and use ppl and scheme... but he is more then capable to taking care ofbusiness himself.
Doom is moreabout accumilating Personal power... mean finding ways to make himself more powerful.

They are both equally dangerous I think


Yeah but Doom just seems more successful. Stole the Beyonders powers thank you. Luthor has the Rock of Ages and what does he do with it? Practically nothing.

Luthor was President though.
and doom has his own country.

Yeah a country the size of Rhode Island big deal.



And yet is still considered enough of a threat for Nick Fury to illegally assemble a strike team and assassinate the leader in charge during Dooms absence.


No big deal obviously.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 20, 2008 6:47 pm

PeteWisdom wrote:
Thomas wrote:
bayani wrote:
Thomas wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
bayani wrote:
Thomas wrote:
What if all of the Marvel villains were in the DC Universe and the DC villains were all in the Marvel universe?
Marvel would be screwed.

Doom would kill Batman (that's right I said it) and control Superman.

HELL NO!!!

Doom is the best thing to ever come from Marvel and I love him... But he's not gonna control Supes. Luthor is every bit as smart as Doom and Supes has done just fine with him.

And give Batman a little more credit.

I would say Doom might even have a better chance than Luthor. Yes I know Luthor is super smart, but so is Doom.


Now given how Doom is written, He could kick Supermans ass, at least temporarily. Course Dooms worst enemy is his own ego, so yeah. Question though, Yes Doom is next in line for Sorceror Supreme, but isn't Stephen Strange no longer the Sorceror Supreme? So who's taken his place? Doom? Haven't heard anything to say otherwise?

See I just don't believe that. Luthor and Doom have completely different motivations. But I think they are equal... None more dangerous then the other. Luthor likes to sit back and use ppl and scheme... but he is more then capable to taking care ofbusiness himself.
Doom is moreabout accumilating Personal power... mean finding ways to make himself more powerful.

They are both equally dangerous I think


Yeah but Doom just seems more successful. Stole the Beyonders powers thank you. Luthor has the Rock of Ages and what does he do with it? Practically nothing.

Luthor was President though.
and doom has his own country.

Yeah a country the size of Rhode Island big deal.



And yet is still considered enough of a threat for Nick Fury to illegally assemble a strike team and assassinate the leader in charge during Dooms absence.


No big deal obviously.

That's only because of the tech that Doom may have left behind. Except for Dooms castle there's nothing of worth in the whole country.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 20, 2008 6:55 pm

Thomas wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
Thomas wrote:
bayani wrote:
Thomas wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
bayani wrote:
Thomas wrote:
What if all of the Marvel villains were in the DC Universe and the DC villains were all in the Marvel universe?
Marvel would be screwed.

Doom would kill Batman (that's right I said it) and control Superman.

HELL NO!!!

Doom is the best thing to ever come from Marvel and I love him... But he's not gonna control Supes. Luthor is every bit as smart as Doom and Supes has done just fine with him.

And give Batman a little more credit.

I would say Doom might even have a better chance than Luthor. Yes I know Luthor is super smart, but so is Doom.


Now given how Doom is written, He could kick Supermans ass, at least temporarily. Course Dooms worst enemy is his own ego, so yeah. Question though, Yes Doom is next in line for Sorceror Supreme, but isn't Stephen Strange no longer the Sorceror Supreme? So who's taken his place? Doom? Haven't heard anything to say otherwise?

See I just don't believe that. Luthor and Doom have completely different motivations. But I think they are equal... None more dangerous then the other. Luthor likes to sit back and use ppl and scheme... but he is more then capable to taking care ofbusiness himself.
Doom is moreabout accumilating Personal power... mean finding ways to make himself more powerful.

They are both equally dangerous I think


Yeah but Doom just seems more successful. Stole the Beyonders powers thank you. Luthor has the Rock of Ages and what does he do with it? Practically nothing.

Luthor was President though.
and doom has his own country.

Yeah a country the size of Rhode Island big deal.



And yet is still considered enough of a threat for Nick Fury to illegally assemble a strike team and assassinate the leader in charge during Dooms absence.


No big deal obviously.

That's only because of the tech that Doom may have left behind. Except for Dooms castle there's nothing of worth in the whole country.


Yeah in the castle alone its a formidable nation. One man makes it a formidable nation.


Clearly Doom is a pushover....so no big deal.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 20, 2008 7:14 pm

The thing is Luthor is capable of doing all of that, but like I said they have different motivations. Doom is conquest and power. Luthor is manipulation and control.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 12:37 am

WOULD THE JOKER AND LEX BE AS BIG AND BAD IN MARVEL?
Batman
I KNOW SOME ABOUT MARVEL BUT NOT MUCH.
WOULD THE HEROES KILL SOMEONE LIKE THE JOKER?
Batman
DOESN'T DOOM HAVE DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY FOR HAVING HIS OWN COUNTRY?
Batman
WOULDN'T DC BE IN A LITTLE TRUBBLE WITH SOMEONE LIKE GALACUS?
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I'M SURE ANYONE WOULD RATHER GO AGAINST DARKSIED THAN BIG G.

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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 1:06 pm

I think that Doom would be elevated to JLA status enemy, mainly because I think he'd become more powerful due to how much stronger DC magic is compared to Marvel magic, also since he's every bit as smart as Luthor I think that he could definitely put the hurt on any of the super teams

now the next question, would Magneto be as big of a threat in the DCU as he is in Marvel?
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 7:51 pm

Shaun wrote:


now the next question, would Magneto be as big of a threat in the DCU as he is in Marvel?

I don't think so. SUperman made short work of his dc counterpart Doctor Polaris.... Although to be fair.... Polaris is was insane... but still... they have the exact same powers.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 7:55 pm

im glad noone has said "god was one of us" in this thread.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 9:11 pm

minimalist wrote:
And I agree... DC would be a much much darker place wihout Superman.... Morealong the lines of Wildstorm... just not as brutal. Batman wouldn't stand for that.


Now... on the flip side.... If Captain America was part of the DC universe.... do you think it would make any impact... and if so... what kind of impact.

I think if Cap was a part of the DC univrse it would have been more like Earth-2 and he would have been a major player in the start of the JSA. I think the DC universe would be less mystical with Cap around for some odd reason.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 9:20 pm

Tayley wrote:
im glad noone has said "god was one of us" in this thread.

i wish i had beat you to it
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 9:29 pm

minimalist wrote:
Shaun wrote:


now the next question, would Magneto be as big of a threat in the DCU as he is in Marvel?

I don't think so. SUperman made short work of his dc counterpart Doctor Polaris.... Although to be fair.... Polaris is was insane... but still... they have the exact same powers.


Eh, which Mags are we talking about? recent Mags?


Or the badass Classic Mags that nearly shows no bounds?
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 9:30 pm

PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
Shaun wrote:


now the next question, would Magneto be as big of a threat in the DCU as he is in Marvel?

I don't think so. SUperman made short work of his dc counterpart Doctor Polaris.... Although to be fair.... Polaris is was insane... but still... they have the exact same powers.


Eh, which Mags are we talking about? recent Mags?


Or the badass Classic Mags that nearly shows no bounds?

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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 9:31 pm

munson! wrote:
PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
Shaun wrote:


now the next question, would Magneto be as big of a threat in the DCU as he is in Marvel?

I don't think so. SUperman made short work of his dc counterpart Doctor Polaris.... Although to be fair.... Polaris is was insane... but still... they have the exact same powers.


Eh, which Mags are we talking about? recent Mags?


Or the badass Classic Mags that nearly shows no bounds?




Yes, kinda like that.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 9:34 pm

PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
Shaun wrote:


now the next question, would Magneto be as big of a threat in the DCU as he is in Marvel?

I don't think so. SUperman made short work of his dc counterpart Doctor Polaris.... Although to be fair.... Polaris is was insane... but still... they have the exact same powers.


Eh, which Mags are we talking about? recent Mags?


Or the badass Classic Mags that nearly shows no bounds?

I think Magneto would do ok but the problem is that Supes just has too many powers for him to win. Magneto usually hurls metal around or wraps it around people neither of those would work for long. Supes speed and flight would be the things he couldn't over come. I can think of at least a dozen ways Superman could beat Magneto.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 9:43 pm

PeteWisdom wrote:
minimalist wrote:
Shaun wrote:


now the next question, would Magneto be as big of a threat in the DCU as he is in Marvel?

I don't think so. SUperman made short work of his dc counterpart Doctor Polaris.... Although to be fair.... Polaris is was insane... but still... they have the exact same powers.


Eh, which Mags are we talking about? recent Mags?


Or the badass Classic Mags that nearly shows no bounds?
Either one.

Even when his power was being boosted by Fabien Cortez, He's never been shown to be more powerful then the sane incarnation of Doctor Polaris.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 10:13 pm

I think Mags could beat supes.

All he'd have to do is scramble his electro-magnetic field.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 10:31 pm

CaptainJoel wrote:
I think Mags could beat supes.

All he'd have to do is scramble his electro-magnetic field.

One question is though.....is Supes fast enough to hit mags before he starts using his powers.
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what if.................................................. superman crash landed in never land ranch? or worse......... TB's house
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 11:25 pm

TJ wrote:
CaptainJoel wrote:
I think Mags could beat supes.

All he'd have to do is scramble his electro-magnetic field.

One question is though.....is Supes fast enough to hit mags before he starts using his powers.

No, Magneto is the shit.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 22, 2008 2:54 am

PeteWisdom wrote:
TJ wrote:
CaptainJoel wrote:
I think Mags could beat supes.

All he'd have to do is scramble his electro-magnetic field.

One question is though.....is Supes fast enough to hit mags before he starts using his powers.

No, Magneto is the shit.
Superman has too many powers to lose to Magneto, his heat vision alone would cut right through before Magneto even knew he was being attacked.
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PostSubject: Re: WHAT IF?   WHAT IF? - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 22, 2008 3:07 am

Cool thread.

If Supes wasn't in DC then it'd be more like the earth we're seeing in Trinity now. Darker, the term Superhero doesn't exist. Mystery Men would be more common.

& I think the Marvel U with Superman would be more like DC. I mean one guy gets a power up, everyone gets a power up. Supes has so many powers, I think everyone would be boosted to some degree.

& I would guess that Hulk would be made close to as strong. Much like Flash is similarly fast, at least he was... Wally is just crazy fast now...


You know what I mean.
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