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True Believer the numero dos
Age : 34
| Subject: Deaths and Resurrections Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:17 pm | |
| What are your favorite and least favorite? They needn't necessarily be in continuity. I'll get the obvious ones out of the way.
Best Death: Barry Allen. Meaningful and emotional and it served as an appropriate end to the Silver Age.
Worst Death: Superman. I always hated the death and return of Superman. Maybe it's because it was well before I started reading comics, so I was equipped with the hindsight that it was just a stunt to raise sales or the fact that it was just several issues of "fight monologuing" (i.e. - "I must put all my power into this final blow! Every muscle in my body aches!".) That coupled with the issue where he died being all splash pages feels to me like a prime example of 90s excess.
Best Resurrection: Bucky. Beloved sidekick of Golden Age hero is quietly resurrected as a badass assassin in a story that manages to both respect the character's history and update him for a modern audience. Eventually takes up the mantle of fallen mentor. Good.
Worst Resurrection: Jason Todd. Universally despised sidekick of Golden Age hero is confusingly resurrected by means of "reality-altering punch" and possible use of Lazerus Pit in a story that he never was intended to truly appear, but was retconned as having done so then switching places with another villain with no real goal. Displays childlike level of maturity and wears several different costumes and assumes several different identities all with only vague, infantile motivations. Bad. | |
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CaptainJoel Fight for the Lost
Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:44 pm | |
| Best Death: Norman Osborn. When I read the arc that it happened in, I was shicked and amazed that they killed such a big character and that he went in a way that I loved.
Worst Death: Ben Reilly. It made me cry at the time, and I still wish they hadn't done it. The thing that really made me hate it though, is that they kept reaffirming that he was the original. So, damn long I had thought he was Peter and then, in one issue, he was killed and all of it was rendered meaningless. I was crushed.
Best Resurrection: Hal Jordan. Really, Green Lantern: Rebirth is the single best resurrection story to me. EVER. I don't think I'll ever find anything that could top it to me. It fit everything in perfectly.
Worst Resurrection: I'm honestly not really sure what to put here, so I'll leave it as something I'll put down later. When I can think of it. | |
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Shaun The Man of Tomorrow
Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:22 pm | |
| the worst death and resurrection certainly belong to Frank Castle - Spoiler:
seriously Daken kills him!?!?!?
and Purgatory sucked best death will always be Barry Allen and best resurrection I agree with Joel and say Hal Jordan had a great ressurection (mainly because I havent read Bucky's resurrection) | |
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CaptainJoel Fight for the Lost
Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:36 pm | |
| - Shaun wrote:
- the worst death and resurrection certainly belong to Frank Castle
- Spoiler:
seriously Daken kills him!?!?!? and Purgatory sucked
best death will always be Barry Allen and best resurrection I agree with Joel and say Hal Jordan had a great ressurection (mainly because I havent read Bucky's resurrection) And I agree with you. Worst resurrection will belong to Frank, now that you mention it. Not looking forward to FrankenCastle. | |
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Shaun The Man of Tomorrow
Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:51 pm | |
| - CaptainJoel wrote:
- Shaun wrote:
- the worst death and resurrection certainly belong to Frank Castle
- Spoiler:
seriously Daken kills him!?!?!? and Purgatory sucked
best death will always be Barry Allen and best resurrection I agree with Joel and say Hal Jordan had a great ressurection (mainly because I havent read Bucky's resurrection) And I agree with you. Worst resurrection will belong to Frank, now that you mention it. Not looking forward to FrankenCastle. yea FrankenCastle looks like it would've been perfect in the Marvel Zombies universe but not 616 | |
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Shadowrenderer Local
Age : 45
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:30 am | |
| - True Believer wrote:
- What are your favorite and least favorite? They needn't necessarily be in continuity. I'll get the obvious ones out of the way.
Best Death: Barry Allen. Meaningful and emotional and it served as an appropriate end to the Silver Age.
Worst Death: Superman. I always hated the death and return of Superman. Maybe it's because it was well before I started reading comics, so I was equipped with the hindsight that it was just a stunt to raise sales or the fact that it was just several issues of "fight monologuing" (i.e. - "I must put all my power into this final blow! Every muscle in my body aches!".) That coupled with the issue where he died being all splash pages feels to me like a prime example of 90s excess.
Best Resurrection: Bucky. Beloved sidekick of Golden Age hero is quietly resurrected as a badass assassin in a story that manages to both respect the character's history and update him for a modern audience. Eventually takes up the mantle of fallen mentor. Good.
Worst Resurrection: Jason Todd. Universally despised sidekick of Golden Age hero is confusingly resurrected by means of "reality-altering punch" and possible use of Lazerus Pit in a story that he never was intended to truly appear, but was retconned as having done so then switching places with another villain with no real goal. Displays childlike level of maturity and wears several different costumes and assumes several different identities all with only vague, infantile motivations. Bad. I don't hate Superman's death. If anything it was more "Damn that Lois & Clark: The new adventures of "Superman" has trumped our marriage idea... what do we do now?" more than a sales grab. But the death issue wasn't great... Many of the pages just didn't work. There's a few all-splash-page issues I've read & this is definitely the worst.
I agree about Barry, so fitting. - CaptainJoel wrote:
- Best Resurrection: Hal Jordan. Really, Green Lantern: Rebirth is the single best resurrection story to me. EVER. I don't think I'll ever find anything that could top it to me. It fit everything in perfectly.
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REEF aka Luke Cage The Man of Tomorrow
Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:18 pm | |
| best death: Jason Phillip Macendale, loved when the poser goblin got handled, Jason Todd was good, Ned Leeds was good, Aunt May death was fitting, even Swordsman's recent death was well done, also Ch'p getting run over by a yellow truck Doctor Light turned into a candle and burned alive by Spectre
best resurrection: Anti Monitor, Hal Jordan, Original Hobgoblin altho the miniseries sucked
worst death: Sabertooth, Dasaaed (killed by the Pied Piper? really?), Firestorm's death sucked, i didnt like Harry Osborn's death either
worst resurrection: Norman Osborn, Jason Todd, Gwen Stacey, Uncle Ben all should should stay dead, the worst of all time i still think is Aunt May | |
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guess_question Boy Wonder
Age : 40
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:06 pm | |
| Best Death: Barry Allen Best Resurection: Kon El Worst Death: Uncle Ben Worst Resurection: Jason Todd | |
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REEF aka Luke Cage The Man of Tomorrow
Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:43 pm | |
| another one that was well done but hit me hard | |
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REEF aka Luke Cage The Man of Tomorrow
Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:43 pm | |
| man...cant believe i forgot about Kraven | |
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CaptainJoel Fight for the Lost
Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:55 pm | |
| Both Kraven and Rorschachs deaths surprised the hell out of me. When I was 7 I completely by chance picked up the end of Kraven's last hunt for a quarter and I remember being like, "Why is he putting that dart gun in his mouth? Why is he talking about his mom? A REAL GUN? WHAT?" And then I hid the comic because I thought I'd get in trouble for having it.
Oddly enough, that's also roughly the same reaction I had when I found one of my Uncle's Hustlers. | |
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shazam! The Man of Tomorrow
Age : 92
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:05 pm | |
| - CaptainJoel wrote:
- Both Kraven and Rorschachs deaths surprised the hell out of me. When I was 7 I completely by chance picked up the end of Kraven's last hunt for a quarter and I remember being like, "Why is he putting that dart gun in his mouth? Why is he talking about his mom? A REAL GUN? WHAT?" And then I hid the comic because I thought I'd get in trouble for having it.
Oddly enough, that's also roughly the same reaction I had when I found one of my Uncle's Hustlers. This house used to be my grandmas. My Uncle left a dresser with a whole drawer of hustlers and a cooler full of playboy here when he moved out. I guess my grandma never looked in the storage closet in the basement. I had the same reaction with those stacks of pornomags. | |
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CaptainJoel Fight for the Lost
Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:45 pm | |
| - shazam! wrote:
- CaptainJoel wrote:
- Both Kraven and Rorschachs deaths surprised the hell out of me. When I was 7 I completely by chance picked up the end of Kraven's last hunt for a quarter and I remember being like, "Why is he putting that dart gun in his mouth? Why is he talking about his mom? A REAL GUN? WHAT?" And then I hid the comic because I thought I'd get in trouble for having it.
Oddly enough, that's also roughly the same reaction I had when I found one of my Uncle's Hustlers. This house used to be my grandmas. My Uncle left a dresser with a whole drawer of hustlers and a cooler full of playboy here when he moved out. I guess my grandma never looked in the storage closet in the basement. I had the same reaction with those stacks of pornomags. My uncle almost got caught reading his Hustler when my parents were at his house so he threw it in a bunch of comics that he gave me for my seventh birthday and I was reading through them one weekend and I found a bunch of posters from Wizard (I think) and I was flipping through them and I flipped through the poster and freaked. Then I found the magazine and freaked even more. | |
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shazam! The Man of Tomorrow
Age : 92
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:59 pm | |
| - CaptainJoel wrote:
- shazam! wrote:
- CaptainJoel wrote:
- Both Kraven and Rorschachs deaths surprised the hell out of me. When I was 7 I completely by chance picked up the end of Kraven's last hunt for a quarter and I remember being like, "Why is he putting that dart gun in his mouth? Why is he talking about his mom? A REAL GUN? WHAT?" And then I hid the comic because I thought I'd get in trouble for having it.
Oddly enough, that's also roughly the same reaction I had when I found one of my Uncle's Hustlers. This house used to be my grandmas. My Uncle left a dresser with a whole drawer of hustlers and a cooler full of playboy here when he moved out. I guess my grandma never looked in the storage closet in the basement. I had the same reaction with those stacks of pornomags.
My uncle almost got caught reading his Hustler when my parents were at his house so he threw it in a bunch of comics that he gave me for my seventh birthday and I was reading through them one weekend and I found a bunch of posters from Wizard (I think) and I was flipping through them and I flipped through the poster and freaked. Then I found the magazine and freaked even more. AHAHA! | |
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Mr.Wholesome Kingbreaker
Age : 47
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:11 am | |
| - shazam! wrote:
- CaptainJoel wrote:
- Both Kraven and Rorschachs deaths surprised the hell out of me. When I was 7 I completely by chance picked up the end of Kraven's last hunt for a quarter and I remember being like, "Why is he putting that dart gun in his mouth? Why is he talking about his mom? A REAL GUN? WHAT?" And then I hid the comic because I thought I'd get in trouble for having it.
Oddly enough, that's also roughly the same reaction I had when I found one of my Uncle's Hustlers. This house used to be my grandmas. My Uncle left a dresser with a whole drawer of hustlers and a cooler full of playboy here when he moved out. I guess my grandma never looked in the storage closet in the basement. I had the same reaction with those stacks of pornomags. Damn, I wish that were my memory. | |
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The_Cognition Boy Wonder
Age : 41
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:06 pm | |
| love the phoenix...my fav marvel character. just dont digg the dieing every 6 months. its like i understand with her powers at a point where their limitless. its just annoying that she dies. prof x too. like come on he dies one more time i might stop reading x-men. and whats with him in and out of the chair. the fuk?! | |
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The_Cognition Boy Wonder
Age : 41
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:11 pm | |
| ill say this. i always love when jean comes back. the fire the eyes the epic rising from the grave her first words...the euphoric look on here face like "im back" | |
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howie024m Local
Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:21 pm | |
| - The_Cognition wrote:
- love the phoenix...my fav marvel character. just dont digg the dieing every 6 months. its like i understand with her powers at a point where their limitless. its just annoying that she dies. prof x too. like come on he dies one more time i might stop reading x-men. and whats with him in and out of the chair. the fuk?!
Second this notion. | |
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The_Cognition Boy Wonder
Age : 41
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:53 pm | |
| with jean i know having her is hard to rite and hard shape...her powers are cosmic you cant just right any old story for her. give her some lower level mission to tend to. its just annoying. | |
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True Believer the numero dos
Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:04 am | |
| Contrary to popular belief Jean Grey has only actually died twice. Now, yes, they do do a story arc or mini, like, every few months that teases her return (Phoenix: Endsong/Warsong, the Madelyne Pryor arc, Hope, several occasions during the 80s) and they'll occasionally do a "Jean Grey communicates with someone she loves from the afterlife" bit. That said, she never actually returned any of those times.
She's died twice, she's come back to life once . . . So far. | |
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The_Cognition Boy Wonder
Age : 41
| Subject: Re: Deaths and Resurrections Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:27 am | |
| either way i love it. she's my favorite. one of the reasons i began reading cmoics and the also the reason i started writing. | |
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